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Helas mon cœur (mon œil), n’as tu pas trop grand tort

Regnes, Nicole

DC0113

Text

Phrase Number Measures Rhyme Phrase
1 1–5 a Helas mon coeur n’as tu pas trop grand tort,
2 5–11 b De m’avoir faict et causé tel oultrage?
3 11–15 a Veu que tu es la fenestre et l’aport
4 15–20 b Dont lon reçoit tout bien et avantage.
5 20–25 b Mal cognoissois ce cuyde mon courage,
6 24–31 c En me donnant le mal sans allegeance.
7 30–37 b J’aymasse mieulx veu mon grief et dommage,
8 37–43 c N’en avoir eu jamais la cognoissance.

Music

Observations

Phrase Measures Analyst Show details
1 1–3 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
831
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dactyll
1 1–2 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
834
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple

Comments

would expect an 8 on the Ct treble clef?

1 2–3 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
835
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

also parallel 3rds Ct/T. T repetition of G in m 2 avoids HR Fauxbourdon

1 3–5 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
836
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn Tonal
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@5)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Below)
Contratenor
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga
1 4–5 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
832
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 4–5 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
837
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 5–6 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
839
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Auth C S/B Disp followed by Auth F T/Ct Disp Inc Evade No Ct or B resolution, Ct eventually move 2-3 not 2-1

1 5–5 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
838
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 5–7 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
842
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
Text Treatment
Text Overlap

Comments

S early

2 6–8 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
844
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca

Comments

3/8 in T/B

2 6–7 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
843
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

3/8 in T/B

2 7–8 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
845
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 9–10 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
847
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
2 10–11 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
840
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 10–11 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
848
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 11–12 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
849
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 11–12 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
841
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 12–14 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
853
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn Tonal
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (@4)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint, Stretto Fuga
Text Treatment
Text Overlap

Comments

Could also consider the Ct as Anticipatory Entry, then just PEN S>B>T

3 12–15 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
850
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn Tonal
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Tenor
Voice Role (@4)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga
3 14–15 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
854
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
3 15–16 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
852
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 15–16 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
851
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 16–16 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
855
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
4 16–18 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
858
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger

Comments

Ct early

4 17–21 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
856
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
4 17–21 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
859
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
4 17–19 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
860
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

3/8 in S/B

4 19–21 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
861
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
4 20–21 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
862
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
4 20–21 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
857
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 21–23 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
866
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca

Comments

3/8 in S/B, cadincad elides phrases

5 21–23 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
863
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
5 23–24 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
867
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
NIM
Voice Role (Upper Voice 1 NIM)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Lower Voice 1 NIM)
Tenor
Voice Role (Upper Voice 2 NIM)
Bassus
Voice Role (Lower Voice 2 NIM)
Superius
5 23–25 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
864
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
NIM
Voice Role (Upper Voice 1 NIM)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Lower Voice 1 NIM)
Tenor
Voice Role (Upper Voice 2 NIM)
Superius
Voice Role (Lower Voice 2 NIM)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint, Stretto Fuga
5 24–25 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
868
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 25–26 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
865
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 25–26 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
869
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 25–28 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
872
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint, Stretto Fuga
6 25–28 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
870
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga, Invertible Counterpoint

Comments

There is a 5th PEn entry in Ct @ 8 above.

6 29–29 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
873
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 30–30 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
874
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 31–32 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
875
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

B evades 5-6

6 31–32 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
871
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 32–33 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
881
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 33–33 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
882
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 34–35 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
883
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 35–37 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
884
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
NIM
Voice Role (Upper Voice 1 NIM)
Superius
Voice Role (Lower Voice 1 NIM)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Upper Voice 2 NIM)
Tenor
Voice Role (Lower Voice 2 NIM)
Bassus
7 36–37 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
885
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
7 36–37 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
877
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
7 37–38 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
878
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 37–38 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
886
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 37–37 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
887
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 38–39 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
879
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Incomplete cad: Ct to rest, no 2>1.

7 38–39 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
888
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Ct no resolution

8 39–40 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
889
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
8 40–40 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
893
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 41–43 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
890
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 42–43 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
894
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

parallel 7ths Ct/B

8 43–44 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
895
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

bass resolves big beat early

8 43–44 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
891
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No